Monday, December 08, 2008

LT update - Dec 8, 2008



In my Last update on Oct 10,2008 i said we would break the Oct 02 lows marginally and start a bear market rally.

It's been a while since i posted my LT indicator. Just thought i will update where we are, to add a little bit perspective to many LT bottom calling that are happening on the web with little to nothing technical evidence to support their calls. There's also a lot of discussions going on as to how we are almost close to a bottom similar to 2003. Nothing is further from truth (technically speaking) as the charts speak for themselves. Look at the massive base building that occurred near the 2003 lows with some nice divergences on my LT indicator.

This indicator called the onset of bear Sep 2000, onset of bull in June 2003 and onset of bear in Jan 2008. Again this is not an IT indicator, but a LT indicator. So one is bound to miss the bottom 10-15% of the rally, if confirmation is needed from this indicator. But if one is playing the LT, why the uncontrollable anxiety of missing the bottom 15%, on what would turn out to be a multi-year rally, i ask ?

One look at the indicator says, where we are now and what is required to create LT divergences on this indicator and how long would it take to build such a long lasting bottom. Any serious technician worth his salt can make some educated guesses on that.

As for the ST, today's action took out the prior swing high on the daily charts at SPX 916. So that confirms that a minor low is in place on the daily charts. That does not mean one can go and buy the strength here, like one would have done in bull markets when the monthly, weekly, daily are all uptrending. In a bull market, if you err on the daily, the weekly trend would bail you out. If you err on the weekly, the monthly would bail you out. Currently with only the daily uptrending, if you err on the daily, you would get killed by the weekly. In other words, at this point, one has the latitude to err only on the hourly charts and get bailed out by the daily. That to me, means, wait for the next hourly oversold condition with divergences and hop in on the rally until it exhausts itself. If the next hourly oversold comes near the prior lows or below that, too bad ! :-). Looking at the NYSE MCO itself, the bulls have probably used up all their ammo already. We'll see...


As for the economy, things should only start downhill from here. The worst of the economic conditions is always past the stock market lows. This whole infrastructure spending is nothing more than another crappy measure by the government IMO. Mimicking the bygone era solutions to new age problems only shows the lack of ingenuity. Moreover, if one believes that infrastructure spending got us out the Great Depression, then yes, i would also believe that Al Gore invented the internet. The cycle needs to run it course. Until then all this government spending and bailouts is throwing good money after bad, throwing precious liquidity into inefficient goverment enterprises. Sorry, i keep forgetting, capitalism as we knew is dead.

Enjoy the rally. I will be back next year after my holidays.

Friday, October 10, 2008

LT - Higher degree trend change !

Last week i warned of a higher degree change, if SPX 1040 was cracked. The first warning shots of a higher degree trend change were fired when SPX cracked 1170, the wave 4 support of the impulse from 2002-2007. If 2002-2207 was a cycle degree advance, we should not have seen the SPX 1170 broken on a weekly closing basis and a strong rally should have emerged from that point. The last technical projection was 1040 as i posted last week and it's a virtual air pocket from there with no support until Oct 2002 lows. So the market action is loudly saying that this is longer a primary degree decline but a higher CYCLE degree decline and Oct 02 lows will be taken out by the time this bear market ends. So a CYCLE degree wave 4 is in progress at this point unless proven otherwise.

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A little bit of history and perspective. This is all again of no trading value and is of only academic and intellectual interest. If you are not interested in that, please skip the following section.


There were calls that 2000 ended a secular bull market. Nothing could be further from truth. The only sector which made a secular top in 2000 was the tech. Most other major and minor indices took out the 2000 top after the bull started from 2003, some marginally and some by a large extent. Fortunes were made in virtually every sector of the market globally, while the permabears were crying bear market rally for 5 years. While the term secular can be subjectively intrepreted, e-wave does not allow that luxury. It's hard to categorize a top as secular when more than 80% of the sectors make their lifetime highs.

The advance out of 2002 mean't two things

1) A major cycle degree advance has begun from 2003, which is what i beleived.

2) The primary degree wave 5 of CYCLE III was in progress.

In hindsight, it is now apparent that 2) was correct and we were concluding the large secular advance from 1975. The 2002 lows never broke the CYCLE degree channel from 1975, leaving the CYCLE degree advance intact. We have now broken that CYCLE degree channel, which means 2007 marks the CYCLE wave III top and a CYCLE wave IV is now in progress. The LT support for CYCLE wave IV should come near the lower degree wave 4 (primary degree wave 4 of CYCLE III) which is the Oct 02 lows. We will probably undershoot the Oct 02 slighly before the bear is over.


This is a chart i posted on my blog a few years back. Given that this bear has progressed to a higher degree, i will have to make a structural adjustment by moving the CYCLE III top from 2000 to 2007.

Very LT count

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Since this is a CYCLE degree bear market as opposed to the Super Cycle degree bear of 1929, the economic conditions during this decline will be no where as worse as 1929. We are dealing with a wave of degree less than 1929. Nevertheless it's going to be tough times for the next few years. Cash will be king. A major value buying opportunity will arise in the months and years ahead, but irony of every major bear lows is that folks will be scrambling to find money for their next meal and buying stocks will be the least of their worries/priority, when it presents itself. Stay defensive !

Once again, wild projections like DOW 4000 and DOW 400 are getting thrown around. It doesn't cost money to make such wild projections. Can it get there ? Who knows ? But do we have technical projections for that ?. Nope !. To come with LT downside projections, we need a intermediate term multi-month rally here, which fails on an intermediate term basis. Right now we are in a free fall with no bottom in sight. The bottom could come anyday, between here and SPX 700, after which a intermediate degree bear market rally should begin. VXO hit 100+ and the volatiltity is insane. Trade Safe ! Good luck.

Sunday, October 05, 2008

IT/LT update - 10/5/2009

I was completely wrong in assuming that a major wave A had ended and wave B had begun. That cancels all my upside projections for now. 9/18 bottom was as good as it gets. Horrible sentiment. A violent price move out of that. A kickoff move on the NYSE Vol osc. And the price finding support a LT wave 4 support and a technical measured move. But none of this was sufficient for this vicious bear. I was expecting a 50% retrace of the 9/18-9/19 move and a rally after that. I was cleary proved wrong.

It's very concerning that the market failed to hold at the previous wave 4. It's very concerning that the market did not hold the double top measured move projection to 1170. It's also very concerning that weekly candle hammer was reversed with even more violence.

Now given that the double top projection to 1170 did not hold, the next measured move projection comes from the (2/1, 5/19) double top, although not a perfect double top. Depending on whether you use 2/1 or 5/19 for the projection, we get two targets - 1040 and 1070. If 1040 does not hold, then there are no further technical projections at this point in my work. That to me would mean a larger degree trend change may be in works. Too early for me to jump the gun on that and make bold sorry projections. Just to give a clue on how overextended the market is here, look at the weekly bollinger bands. Price close way below the weekly BBs and failed to mount a reversal out of it. In the last 10 years we have seen two instances where this kind of configuration presented itself - the week after 9/11 and July 2002.




Bottomline, i will be watching SPX 1040 with interest for clues on possible larger degree trend change. For now my wave count remains the same, except that the intermediate wave that i thought bottomed on 9/19, continues to extend.

P.S - BTW, i closed my SPY positions that i opened last week for 60 points gain, which i posted on traders-talk, since i think we are at the crossroads of a possible trend change of higher degree.

Good luck !

Monday, September 29, 2008

Da plan

The market action today clearly proved me wrong. Period !

Now the question is how do i exploit this opportunity. I don't trade when VIX is above 40, which is currently around 48. My trading account is fully in cash.

But this is a great time for investment or so i think. I bought a 25% position in my retirement account around SPX 1115. Will buy another 25% if we go down to SPX 1015, which is a big "IF". That would put my average position around 1165, with a stop around 950. A 10% stop. In the worst case, my investment losses would be around 5%, if i get stopped out.

That's da plan. I am in 25%. Let's see how this goes.

Saturday, September 27, 2008

IT/LT bottom update

I posted last week that we made a LT/IT bottom and a multi-month rally lasting 6-8 months should begin. Many are still calling for Oct lows. I will have to respectfully disagree with them. What we saw was historical off-the-chart volume at the lows. It just blows my mind ! Then looking at the NYSE vol MCO, we had a kick off move on the MCO off the lows. That combined with the price action out of the bottom says in no uncertain terms, that we have put in a major bottom here. Now if we go up and take out SPX 1265, that would be the confirmation that a new uptrend has started. The kickoff move out of this bottom has been bigger, faster and violent than of 1/23, 3/17 or 7/08. That means we are starting a wave which is "higher in degree" than any of those waves that emerged out of 1/23, 3/17 or 7/08. Consequently the time and size of this wave should also be bigger than any of those ST moves. I posted the projections for this wave B in my previous post and i see no change to that.







Now as for the sentiment, this is by far the worse LT sentiment that i can recall in a while. The news of death of America is once again exaggerated. As i said last week, the asian regional newspaper journalists who think Freddie Mac is a hambuger, also have realized the impending death of America. When you get historical volume and a kickoff move on the NYSE Vol Osc out of this kind of extreme sentiment, it can only be a major IT/LT bottom. Time will tell...

Saturday, September 20, 2008

LT Update - Voila !

On Aug 23, i wrote that we would head into a major 9 month cycle bottom and we did. On Sep 15, i posted that we should end the climactic phase in about 1-2 days. In my Sep 17 post i said that Sentiment was ripe for a major bottom and the pattern,price and time was ripe. Now one could blame the bottom on the Fed/Treas intervention etc. Yes, but that's not technical analysis. Hasn't the Fed treasury been intervening constantly over the last few weeks. Why did the market choose to bottom on a particular day ? Well, if one is a technical analyst, it would have been hard to miss this bottom. 2 days prior to the bottom we had nasty breadth plurality, with decliners exceeding 3000+ on the NYSE. During Thursday morning trade, the advancers were running around 2000, while the market started to plunge. Decliners never went above 2000 during the selloff. Not to mention the capitulation volume over the last few days. Tell tale signs of an approaching bottom. Of course, the advance out of the bottom got exaggerated with the annoucement of the short selling ban. But point is, if you are TA guy, you would have been prepared for this assault. That's what i had been preparing for, with my posts over the last few days on this blog. Many are calling this as a ST bottom. But i disagree and i am going out on a limb and calling this a major IT bottom. A multi-month rally lasting 6-8 months should begin from here.


My LT projection for SPX was 1170+/- 20 points and we acheived that this week. The market progressed pretty much in the way the pattern was projected. An a-b-c-x-a-b-c.

Prior LT projection


Given that this was the largest, fastest 1-week rally since the bear market begun in Oct 2007, the post market action out of the bottom loudly says that the first leg of the bear market is likely over !.



Now to the fun part on the projections. Assuming wave A is over, Wave B typically retrace 50-78.1% of the wave A rally. Given the fast nature of the rally out of the bottom, and relative to where the price now is w.r.t to the weekly Oscillator, there's ways to go before the weekly charts get overbought. So it's unlikely that the 50% retrace will mark the end of the wave B rally. Timewise it took almost 12 months for the wave A rally. So the wave B rally should last at least for 6-8 months. Given the time requirement and the room on the weekly momentum charts, i would say the target for this Wave B rally should be at least the 61.8% retrace, which comes around 1407. That's my prelimnary projection P1. If we exceed and hold above that, we could tag the P2 target (1470), which is quite remote, but nevertheless possible.

The necessary divergence on the NYSE MCO is in place. The necessary momentum divergences on the weekly charts are in place. I dont' see a case for a retest. I only pray that the bears don't get caught in another gap-up over the weekend. A lot of psychological damage has been made on the bears in the last 2 days. The outrage over the govt intervention and disbeleif in the rally, will ensure that the bus will never get loaded on this upleg. Keep an open mind and trade well ! Good luck.

Wednesday, September 17, 2008

Sentiment

Sentiment here is appropriate for a major bottom (no i am not talking about a ST bottom). What a contrast ? It was just 8 months ago when the chinese housewives were buying the Shanghai with both their hands and the Indian housewives went nuts, all plunging into the Reliance IPO when BSE was at 21000.

When S&P cracked 1380 back in January, i posted the LT sell on the S&P with a target of 1170+/-20. There were no talks about the implications of the U.S market breakdown. It was all about how the emerging markets were immune from the U.S developments. BSE was at 20,000+ and SSEC was somewhere around 5500 then. Now that the BSE is close to it's LT objective of 12300 and Shanghai now below 2000, stories about the death of U.S is appearing on the front pages of the asian newspapers, written by journalists who think AIG is an index and S&P a stock ! And mind you, the stories are appearing even on the asain regional newspaper frontpages !

Time to get bearish was 2 weeks back when the trend turned. At the tops and the middle of the trend, there are plenty of trendlines, forks, bollinger bands, fibonanci, pivots, etc to provide support and a slope to slip down on. When all supports are broken and there's nothing to hang on, then the raw fear takes over, like now. The crash topics take center stage. Newsletter writers warn their subscribers of the dangerous volatility and ask them to stay in cash (and you need to pay these newsletters folks to learn to stay in cash. Amazing !). Folks, it's nothing new here. I bet every major IT bottom has felt that way. Most typical of a 9 month cycle bottom.

Now this is neither an advise to bottom pick nor a passage about my knife-catching abilities. Just a sentiment read. I don't trade these bottoms. I am just not interested. I just scalp the volatility, beacuse unless one has the ability to take 50-100 SPX points drawdowns calmly, they have no business trying to establish positions here.

Time, Pattern and Price are ripe here for the completion of the first leg of the bear market. Now let the market speak....

Monday, September 15, 2008

9 month cycle update

Since my Aug 23 update, the market has been severely pressured by the 9 month cycle. Given that the cycle is on track, i would expect the lows to come sometime the end of September. Negative breadth climaxed on today's selloff and the volume rose as we broke SPX 1200. We are entering into the selling climax phase of this decline, which should last a couple of days, which means some nasty volatility and wide range bar days. I still expect the market to bottom in my LT bottom projection area of SPX 1170+/- 20 points. If the market puts in the internal bottom in the next couple of days, then we should see a bounce and retest towards the end of this month. That's just a guess at this point. Until the daily trend turns up, think shorting the bounces, not picking some elusive bottoms. Supports mean squat in strongly downtrending markets ! It's "Slipping down the slope of hope". It's gonna be one hectic week. Will post an update, end of this week.

Good luck !

Saturday, August 23, 2008

9 month cycle bottom

I am not a cycles guy and i don't watch short-term cycles. But i do pay attention to the 40 week-cycle, i.e the 9 month cycle. One of the most powerful and reliable cycles IMO.



Ideally the cycle is due the end of Septempber. If it right translates, the way it did the last time, then it's due end of Oct to first week of Nov.

There are wide range of opinions concerning the LT scenario. Opinions range from a dark bear breaking the Oct 02 lows to a LT bull which has already resumed. Some remain in the middle camp which are calling for a cyclical bear. I continue to remain in the middle camp i.e a primary degree wave 2 from the Oct 07 top (Wave 1 being the primary 1 from oct 02 - oct 07).

The coming 9 cycle bottom would give more clues about the intermediate picture. Ideally we should break below SPX 1200 and put the necessary divergences on the weekly to end the primary degree wave A of 2 and start the primary degree wave B of 2.

On the other hand, if the 9 month cycle lows hold above SPX 1200, then it would mean that the primary degree wave A of 2 terminated at SPX 1200 and we are already in a primary degree wave B.

The coming 9 month bottom will provide strong clues about the IT scenario and put to rest all opinions, as the market will once again assert itself, leaving behind all opinions in the dust !

Wednesday, August 20, 2008

Weekly Trends - Aug 20, 08

Gold and Dollar - My call on July 27 was spot on. Gold plunged below $800 and Dollar tagged the 77-78 area. Now Gold and Dollar are at key LT pivot points. If the bull market in Gold is alive we should start a screaming rally and take out the March 08 highs. That would be the expectation of a trend follower. However, given the concerted co-ordinated efforts among the central banks across the world to combat inflation (many of the asian bloc countries already in a run-away inflation mode), it's possible that the inflation cycle has peaked and so has the commodity bull cycle. That's just my opinion. I will let the market speak for itself.

SPX

Nothing has changed since my July 21 update. We were at 1260 then and we are around the same levels today. SPX probably topped at 1313. If not, there are two key resitances overhead - 1327, which is the May 06 highs and the 200 SMA, currently around 1365. 1365 also happens to be a key horizontal res (March 07 and Aug 07) bottoms.







As far as the daily charts goes, it's a tough choppy market to trade here. It's the hourly charts where the action is. How do i play this? To me, it's simple. Currently the daily momentum is down. So keep shorting the bounces on the hourly charts. If the daily momentum turns up, keep buying the dips until either 1327 or 1365 is reached.

Good luck.

Sunday, July 27, 2008

Weekly trends

SPX - I presented two counts in my LT update last week, one in pink and other in blue. Both the counts are equally probable at this stage. There's not enough information to rule out either scenarios at this stage. A retest of SPX 1200 with either a higher or lower lows with divergence (count in blue) would be intermediate term bullish. If the count in pink materializes, then we should rally to about SPX 1335-40, before the next downleg starts.

Dollar, Gold - The weekly trend on the Gold remains up and the Dollar down. I got a countertrend sell on Gold and coutertrend buy on Dollar on the weekly charts, end of this week. Dollar index should rally to about 77-78 before it peters out. In the meantime Gold should drop to about $800, before the next weekly uptrend starts.

Monday, July 21, 2008

LT Update

Back in January, i made a case for a bear market

http://nav-ta.blogspot.com/2008/01/big-picture-lt-sell.html

So far the progression of the bear seems in line with the big picture. My LT indicator remains in a deep bear territory, which will take a while before it recovers above zero. As i belong to the confirmation based school of TA, i will wait for that indicator to cross back above zero and a potentially completed wave pattern to call the beginning of the new bull, whenever that happens.

In the LT update i had a projection of SPX 1170+/- 20 points for a bottom. We hit SPX 1200 last week, 10 points above the high end of the projection.



From here the market can take two paths from a wave and internals perspective. If we rally straight up from here to about SPX 1300-1320, without doing a retest, then we are setting up for another failure and i would go with the count in pink. If we were to do a retest of the SPX 1200 area with positive divergences, then we would be making one heck of a bottom and should be good for a multi-month rally (the count in blue).

Blue or Pink Jose ? It's futile to guess. I will let the market speak. Bottomline the bear is far from over, but we are setting up for a major bear market rally here.

Tuesday, July 01, 2008

ST buy signal at the close

It was wild volatile action in the markets today, typical of a bottoming market. The market apparently did not go into a selling climax, which many have been anticipating for weeks now. Maybe too many are looking for the climax. Maybe the system is clogged with shorts. Who knows ? What really matters is price, breadth and volume. Today we had a divergent bottom on both NYSE breadth and Vol MCOs. My price momentum system on the hourly also issued a buy signal. These signals are good for anywhere between 20-60 SPX points.

Is this an IT bottom ?. Too premature to even think in that direction. But if we start seeing big volume and breadth spikes, then maybe we are on to something big. One baby step at a time...

P.S - Remember, the mother of all interventions by the Fed in March 2008. That was an engineered bottom and today's retest of that bottom is sort of vindication for those who beleive that in the long run, the markets are on their own and too big to be manipulated by the central banks or any other financial powerhouses.

Friday, June 27, 2008

Weekly trends - 6/27/08

SPX

As i noted last week, with the break of 1324, the IT trend turned down and i had weekly support target at 1280-90. We tagged that support this week, but there is neither a divergent setup on daily or even the hourly charts for that matter. I told one of the posters on traders-talk, that it's unlikely we get a complex bottom, cuz if we do, we can forget the bear market for a while. The market's on a mission here, a mission to make new bear market lows. That's the reason it's been so persistenty declining and not making any divergent bottoms. Everyday it's the same story. Some silly bounce, the breadth looks good in the morning and gradually deteriorates into 2000+ decliners by mid-to-late day. That's strong instituitional liquidation going on.

The break of 1324 was a disaster for the bulls. Once the market enters a IT downtrend, the reversal ain't gonna happen easily. We need to see complex bottoming action. We need see some 90:10 volume days with a big breadth spike. The only thing that would bring that kind of a buying interest would be either another huge Fed intervention or a market crash of about 100-150 points from here, which would undoubtedly bring an army of bargain hunters. Otherwise, 20-30 point bounces on SPX aside, the IT downtrend should continue.

As for the support, 1380 weekly support has held so far. I am not expecting any big bounces here other than the 20-30 point variety which is again a short in my book. If i get any ST buy signals on the daily charts, i will post an update on this blog.

The Asian markets got slaughtered week, particularly the BSE. BSE dipped below the 14000 mark, closing at 13800. The montetary authorities have started tightening the screws hard, with India in a runaway inflation mode. My LT forecast for BSE, which i posted on this blog a few months back, has it's first support around 12300. I doubt that support will hold either in the LT.

Gold, Silver and Euro

Gold, Silver and Euro continues to remain in a weekly uptrend. Both Gold and Euro issued a continuation buy this week. But it was not confirmed by Silver. Until both Gold and Silver confirms, i am staying out of these markets.

Sunday, June 22, 2008

Weekly Trends - 6/20/08

SPX

Boy, was i wrong !

I made a call just a day before the May top and projected a target of SPX 1350-60. My targets were met, but got undershot. But the IT trend was up in my book as long as SPX 1324 held. Given that we held SPX 1324 last week and got a divergent buy setup (a 70% odds signal), i thought we had begun the next upleg towards SPX 1500 +/- 20 points. The market action this week clearly proved me wrong. Now that cancels my SPX 1500 +/- 20 points projection.

Now the next support of importance on the weekly charts comes around the 1280-90 area. The 1404 double top has a measured move to SPX 1300 on the daily charts. So it's safe to say we should bottom somewhere in the 1280-1300 region. A bottom here could happen by a basing action, with multiple retests in the 1300 area or a climactic drop into the 1280 area. Which one ? I have no clue. Whenever the next buy signal on my daily charts show up on my trading system, i will post here (right or wrong !).

Gold, Silver and Dollar

As i said last week, there are no easy trades in these markets, as the weekly charts are pretty much neutral i.e sideways action, with the weekly 34 EMA flattening. A trending move is about begin in these markets pretty soon, looking at the basing action in the Gold/Silver on the weekly charts and the rejection of the 34 ema on the Dollar index weekly charts. Essentially the inflation theme continues in these markets.

Inflation is running out of control in the asian bloc. Many countries now have official inflation numbers in double digits. Some of the countries like vietnam have inflaton running above 25%. India's official inflation numbers which were barely 6% a few months back now stand at 11%. Wow, nearly 100% increase in a few months. Gotta beleive these govt numbers. Now how does this play out. Will this enter a runaway inflation mode, furthering the commodity rally or will the central banks tighten real hard and cause a commodity collapse ? Who knows ? That's why i hate fundamentals. Sorry for digressing, but the inflation situation looks alarming !

No positions in any market, but looking to enter soon, based on confirmation.


Good trading !

Saturday, June 14, 2008

Weekly trends - 6/13/08

Last week i showed a chart of the NYSE Vol MCO with a potential divergent setup. Now the divergences were blown away and we proceeded towards my longstanding target of 1350 for this correction. We'll the price undershot even more into SPX 1331.




What we had last week was a potential divergent setup. But what we have end of this week is a confirmed diveregent setup on both the NYSE Vol and NYSE breadth MCOs. So i will go out on the limb and call the 6/12 bottom as an important bottom for many months to come. We should begin a multimonth advance here which should take us into the SPX 1500 +/- 20 points area.














Again divergent bottoms can be simple or complex. What we saw in March 17 was a complex bottom. Those kind of bottoms are violent, emotional and glaring. While anyone can spot them, it's difficult to trade them as they tend to occur at major IT bottoms which tend to be hypervolatile affairs. We see retests on the Osc itself in the complex bottoming situations.

Simple bottoms are simple. Hell, how can i describe them ?. 1/23, 4/15 and 6/12 were all simple bottoms, which i have marked on my chart. They don't display the complex retests on the Osc. They tend to occur in the middle of IT trends, usually secondary bottoms. They are more subtle and tend to fool the most. A good example was 4/15 when most were bearish and got fooled. Same siutation here again.

Again, there are tons of fundamental reasons to be bearish here. But the technicals are saying a bottom here. And i will go with the technicals.


Gold, Silver and Euro - They all remain in weekly uptrends, but in a corrective configuration, which is very diffuclt to trade here. So nothing compelling there for me.

Friday, June 06, 2008

Weekly trends - 6/6/08

SPX
Sideways to down it was, as i posted last week. I was expecting 1425 max on the upside, which got undershot. The downside today was pretty dramatic. We are now near my downside target of SPX 1350-60 area. I still beleive that this area will provide the support and we launch a multi-month rally from here. The key here is the NYSE Vol MCO which is putting in a divergent bottom relative to price.
















The key is not the divergence itself, but the price reponding to this divergent setup. So we need to see the divergence hold and price confirming by giving a daily buy signal. If that happens then we are on track for a multi-month rally here. Now if the NYSE Vol Osc breaks that blue line in my chart, that's a warning sign that something big on downside is coming. Pricewise, if 1324 cracks then the IT uptrend is over and the next leg of the bear market has begun. That's not what i am expecting here, but something to be open minded about.

I have not seen the indices as broken as it is now, in a long time. NDX and RUT are not even in daily downtrends and yet to break the 5/30 weekly chart lows. But SPX chart looks completely broken from a daily chart perspective and holding on to dear life from a weekly perspective. Who's real...who's faking ? We should know soon.


Gold, Silver
As i noted last week Gold and Silver are in some sort of sideways congestion before we start a trending move up. Many are expecting a big downslide in Gold, which i am not. I will likely take a position in Gold sometime next week. I need to see some more strength before commiting, to avoid whipsaws.


Dollar
Yawn...The weekly downtrend continues.


OIL
The weekly uptrend continues. A very dangerous market here, which appears to be in a blow-off phase.

Monday, June 02, 2008

Weekly Trends

SPX
The weekly on SPX remains in an uptrend with an eventual objective of SPX 1500 +/- 20 points. Only a break of SPX 1324 would invalidate the weekly uptrend, and would mean a multi-month decline has started.

The daily on the SPX is currently down and the market should remain rangebound for the next couple of weeks between SPX 1425 and 1350. My hourly model on SPX remains on a buy with a max upside target of 1425 this week, after which i expect a test of the SPX 1350-60 area.

GOLD and Silver
Gold and GDX remains in a weekly uptrend despite all the downside volatility this week. Silver which went to weekly buy last week entered a sell this week. The non-confirmation between the Silver and Gold continues. To me this appears to be a sideways congestion pattern, before the uptrend resumes on the weekly charts. However this is not a easy market to trade with confidence here. Closed my GLD position at breakeven this week and SLV for a 2% loss. Will reasess Gold based on this weeks action. Staying out for now.

Dollar
Dollar index remains in a weekly downtrend. So boring...

OIL
Oil remains in a weekly uptrend. Yawn...




Sunday, May 25, 2008

Weekly trends

Gold
Remains on a weekly continuation buy. Target still remains at 970-980. Still long GLD from 89. Took partial profits this week and bought some silver.

Silver
Issued a fresh weekly continuation buy this week and confirmed Gold's last weeks advance. Bought some Silver using SLV at 80. Will add more if we get to 75.

Dollar
Dollar index went to weekly continuation sell this week. Initial target is about 69-70. No positions here.

Stocks
I was expecting a ST top on Friday last week. But it came a day late on Monday. We are approaching the ST target on SPX around 1360-70 area, where a multi-week rally should begin which should not take out the 5/19 highs. SPX appears to be in a mulit-week sideways to down correction.

Financials
My call on SKF last week was spot on. I had a target of 109-110. But i took profits prematurely at 106. XLF has a downside target of about 24 based on the weekly charts and we are almost there. No positions here.

Tuesday, May 20, 2008

Not a bear market a la 2000-2002

Back on Jan 19, i posted a LT chart of SPX showing the completion of a 5 wave impulse with a wave 5 extension. That completed the wave 1 of the impulse. That also said a wave 2 bear market was underway with a LT target of SPX 1160.

LT sell

The unfolding structure and the market dynamics at that time called for a quick drop to 1160. But the massive Fed intervention created a temporary bottom around 1250 and we rallied.

I said in that post

So we in a primary degree wave 2 bear trend at this stage, until proven otherwise. The implication is that the Oct 02 bottom was a cycle degree wave 4bottom, which should not be violated for decades to come.

Many bears are expecting a repeat of the 2000-2002 bear market and some expecting the Oct 2002 lows to be taken out. I have to respectfully disagree here on both the counts. 2000-2002 was a cycle degree collapse. Right now we are in a primary degree wave 2 bear trend. Big difference.

The last two of weeks of action has pretty much ruled out a 2000-2002 style collapse. Remember in bull markets the tops are complex and the bottoms are simple. It's the opposite in the bear market, when tops tend to be simple and bottoms are complex. Take a look at the weekly CCI during the entire 2000-2002 bear. As soon as the weekly CCI used to get overbought i.e move above 100, it used to result in a immediate collpase in prices. The weekly CCI never stayed above 100 for more than a week or two. That's a simple top and a classic weekly downtrend in progress from a momentum perspective. Right now we are dealing with a situation where the weekly CCI has been above 100 for the last 6 weeks. That's not a simple top, but a complex top on the CCI. In other words we have started uptrending from a momentum perspective. Although we have the 8 EMA still below the 34 EMA, momentum which leads price is saying we are uptrending on the weekly timeframe. That is not exactly what you would see in a full fledged bear market.

Now whether you call it a bull market correction or a bear market depends on one's definition. To me, it's not a bull market, until we have the weekly MACD above zero and bottoms above bottoms configuration on the weekly charts. So i continue to label it as a bear market.

Now the bull-bear dividing IT pivot comes around 1324. As long as SPX 1324 holds, the path of least resistance on the weekly chart will continue to be upward. For IT traders, long is the right trade. I was expecting a ST top on Friday, but it came on Monday. Now this ST decline will tell the story for the next 6-8 months. If we get a choppy sideways to down decline into SPX 1360-70 area and if daily gets oversold and turns back up around that area, then it's very bullish IT and we could move up to test the SPX 1500-20 area. For the bears to regain control, we need to break the IT pivot at 1324 - Period !. Now i keep asking myself, is there energy in the bear to do that ? Without putting my own bias in the front, i will let this ST decline give me clues.

Now does that mean the bear market ends if we hold the SPX 1360-70 area. A five year bull market is not going to end with a mere 6 month correction. Structurally, it does not make any sense from a e-wave perspective. That means SPX will not make new all time highs, but will do a deep retest of the 2007 highs. Bottomline, if 1360-70 area holds over the next few weeks, there's another 150+ points of potential SPX run to the upside. Bull or bear, i would not want to miss that.

Good luck.

Trade update

Closed my SKF position between 106 and 106.30 for about 5% profits. Still holding GLD long.

Friday, May 16, 2008

Weekly trends

I will try to post some weekly trends from my position trading system here going forward, once a week. These are multi-week position trades which require 5-8% stop aiming for 10-15% or higher profits.

Gold

Gold never entered a bear trend on the weekly charts, despite the big correction off of the March 08 highs. The weekly 8 EMA continues to reside above the 34 EMA. Now i have a fresh buy on GOLD as of this week's close. So essentially it's a trend continuation buy. The target for Gold is about 970-980 or higher. I took a position in GLD at 89.

Silver
Silver dissapointed from entering a weekly buy. Missed by a narrow margin. Not sure if that's a red flag for Gold or if it's just lagging behind gold. No positions here.


Euro

The Euro is on a counterend sell i.e a correction on the weekly charts. The 8 EMA continues to resides above the 34 EMA and the weekly trend reamins up. But we marginally failed to get a continuation buy on Euro, thus putting it still in the correction camp. Again whether this non-confirmation remains a red flag for Gold remains to be seen. Interestingly the ETF FXE issued a buy. Maybe the ETF folks are over enthusiastic here. We shall see..

No positions here.

Financials

XLF remains on a weekly continuation sell from last week. XLF needs to take out 28 to invalidate this signal. I remain long SKF from 101 last week.

S&P
The weekly trend continues to remain down on the S&P. 8 EMA below 34 EMA. We are in a large correction in a downtrend. But a couple of more weeks of upside action could turn the weekly trend up. ST continues to confound me. Everyday looks like a top, only to be taken out by a surreptitious slow rally. Typical of a trending market. My system says Friday was a ST top, but again the late day OPEX shenanigan put a damper on that signal. Next weeks things should get clearer.

No positions here. Only daytrading.

OIL

WOW. The strong uptrend on weekly charts continues. DUG seems to be the darling of the masses, just like QID was in 2006, making fresh lows day after day. But the enthusiasm of the OIL bears remains unfazed. It remains to be seen, if finally the OIL bears get the much needed correction or just get blown out by the charging bull. No easy trades in this market at all.

No positions here.

Sunday, May 11, 2008

IT and ST update

In my IT update on April 12, i was looking for an SPX target in the 1400-1420 range. On April 22, i thought we made a top at 1395. But i was wrong. The market inched higher into 1422 area. Now based on Friday's action, we have cracked the ST uptrend from the 4/15 lows. My ST system (daily) is now on a sell, which means i will be shorting rallies here.

Intermediate term has two scenarios here.

Scenario 1: Now the key IT pivot here is SPX 1324. If 1324 is taken out even on a intraday basis, the IT uptrend is over and we should head down and crack the 3/17/08 lows.

Scenario 2: If the daily charts gets oversold and turns back up without breaking 1324, then we should head higher in another upleg to about 1450-60 area.

LT we remain in a bear market, all this huge rallies not withstanding.

LT - Down
IT - Up
ST - Down

Tuesday, April 22, 2008

IT update

The ST uptrend from March 08 lows likely ended today. Both the NYSE breadth and Vol MCOs have hooked down. The Nasdaq breadth MCO has crossed below the zero line and turned the summation down. The daily momentum on SPX has also turned down. The wave pattern looks complete.

The last rally from 4/15 lows has the signature of a sucker rally. Look at the 10 day SMA of the adv-decl on NYSE. It severely diverged as we made new highs.



Will we go for another high with triple divergence ? Always possible, but i am not betting my money on it. Triple divergences on daily charts happen when the markets are in a strong primary uptrend like last summer. Now we are in a bear market. Be prepared for out of the blue declines.

Good luck

Sunday, April 20, 2008

IT update

In my last update on April 12, i called for an upside target of SPX 1400-1420. I was expecting that target to be tagged in about 2 weeks. But it all happened bloody fast, if you were a bear !. Too far...too fast. Again, feels good to be a technical analyst.

So far there are no technical indications of a top yet. I did get a VST sell at the close on Friday. So expect some weakness come Monday. I don't have any projections for the selloff yet. All big selloffs start with a VST sell. But all VST sells do not necessarily lead to big selloffs.

To call 4/18 as a top, a couple of things need to happen. Firstly the rising NYSE MCOs should hook down and price needs to break below SPX 1357. That selloff should be of a high velocity type. That would be an early indication of the top. Barring that i would still expect the higher end of my projected range which is 1420 to get tagged in the coming days.

Bottomline, hourly is on a sell. Play for what it's worth. Daily uptrend remains intact for now. No need to overanalyze here.

Saturday, April 12, 2008

IT update



In my last IT update on March 24, i noted that the turn in the Weekly CCI above -100 would take us to SPX 1390, the mid-line of the weekly bollinger bands. We tagged the weekly BB which came in around SPX 1386 and got rejected. Feels good as a technical analyst. But the fly in the ointment is that the NYSE MCO spike has not yet displayed negative divergences to call that SPX 1386 as a good top. Also the daily trend as evidenced by the series of higher lows on the daily charts is up. So i would expect another rally here into the SPX 1400-1420 area to finally create the necessary divergences on the MCO and set the stage for the next big decline into the SPX 1160 area.



SPX remains in a very complex corrective wave B correction. This pattern can take myriad of ways to its completion. The wave pattern by itself is totally useless to determine its conclusion. One need to look at the daily price momentum and the internals like the MCOs to determine it's conclusion.


In the end, "Price is king". If we break the 3/31/08 lows, then you can kiss the uptrend a goodbye and start looking to short rallies. For now, the ST remains up and i will be looking to buy dips on oversold conditions. ES could fill the gap at 1321.50, before we begin the next upleg. Or we could also gap-up on Monday and never look back until SPX 1400-20. Either way, i am expecting another upleg.

Good luck all !

Monday, March 24, 2008

IT update - The mother of all interventions !



I am not a fundamental analyst, nor do i beleive fundamental analysis has any value in market timing. But some interesting fundamental events have transpired over the last couple of months - 75 bps emergency but, 50 bps regular meeting cut, 200 billion TSLF facility, another 75 bps regular meeting cut, Bear stern bailout....

And the grand effect - we are still below the Short term DTL (downtrend line). That's some potent intervention, eh ? How many cuts did we require to launch the 1998rally ? Something to ponder.

Ok, now back to TA. The most important technical event as of last weeks close was the Weekly CCI moved back above -100. Usually that's a good indicator of a multi-week rally to occur. The last time it occurred was on 11/30/07, which resulted in a 1.5 weeks of rally before failure. Let's see how long this one lasts.

From a daily chart perspective, we still remain under the ST DTL, which means the daily trend is still down. If we get back above SPX 1345, this week we would end the ST downtrend and the weekly momentum displayed by the CCI should assert itself, meaning a move to about SPX 1390 area (midline of the weekly bollinger bands) should begin. If we fail to take out the SPX 1345 area and encounter a failure, then the downtrend will continue.

If one is stubbornly bearish, the weekly CCI is flashing a big warning to remain flexible.

Monday, March 17, 2008

BSE Sensex (India) LT sell signal



BSE went into a LT sell on March 14, 2008 based on the weekly close, both from a momentum and e-wave perspective. The weekly MACD dipped below zero and now we have a pattern of lower lows on the weekly and a potentially completed e-wave pattern.

The day U.S markets went into a LT sell on my system was 1/16/2008 ( with the break of 1370, which i published on this blog), BSE was trading at 19,868 then. Today it's under 15000. The LT sell on the U.S markets was a great cue for those long the BSE to exit. March 14 weekly close broke the LT uptrend on BSE. I was out of town over the weekend and could not post the LT sell over the weekend.

This sell signal promises an IT objective of about 12500 (wave A decline) and then a bear market bounce in wave B and then a final flush in wave C below 10000. Once the wave B rally completes, i should be able arrive at more refined projections for wave C.

Now that we are in a bear market as opposed to a IT bear trend, this should lead to softening economic conditions going forward. Also, as long as the LT buy was alive, one could sit on drawdowns and hope for the LT trend to bail them out of the drawdown situations. One could also average down on IT term declines. Now that the LT is on a sell, drawdowns can lead to further drawdowns and averaging down can be a potentially losing strategy. Also now all signals will have to be intrepreted in the context of a bear market.

Friday, February 29, 2008

LT and IT update

My LT indicators remain in a bear zone and i eventually expect SPX to tag SPX 1170 +/- 20 points. No change there.

The IT picture here is very interesting to say the least. I have two counts here.

The first count says we have topped in wave X and about to commence the next big leg down. If this were true, then we should take out the MCO lows of 1/22/08, which is not very far below. My only concern with this count is that the upside wave X did not even tag the mid-line of the bollinger bands on the weekly charts. That's very unusual even for a bear market and is characteristic of an extremely weak market.



My second count says we are close to concluding wave b of X and then another run-up to SPX 1420-30 area (wave c of X) to tag the mid-line of the Bollinger bands on the weekly charts, before the big leg commences. Note that both the NYSE breadth and Vol MCOs took out the 2/22 lows. So it's very likely even with this count that we see further weakness down into SPX 1310-1316area, before the wave c of X begins.




Which count Jose ? I have no idea at this point unless we get more information. E-waves are roadmaps and not trading signals. Watch your hourly indicators for bottoming action before jumping long, even if you beleive in the bullish count. Hourly is decisively down at this point and no buy signals there. If you truly beleive that we are headed to SPX 1430 area, then why the hurry to catch a falling knife ? Wait for a hourly buy which could come 15-20 points above. Missing the bottom 15 points ain't shabby if you are looking for a 100 point trade. Good luck !

Saturday, January 19, 2008

The big picture ! - LT sell

Prior e-wave projection

Back in Sep 2006, on this blog, i had posted the e-wave projection for the final bull market top as SPX 1620. But given the 3-legged structure from Aug 07 bottom, i was still giving the benefit of doubt for another run-up to SPX 1620 in 2008, to complete the pattern. I was wrong. My LT system issued a sell on Jan 16, which now precludes any run-up to new highs anytime soon. The e-wave failure or truncation resulted in a bull market top at 1576. I missed my projection by about 40 points, which is insignificant for a LT type of projection. It's not about being right or wrong here. Even if i were dead right on my target, i would still have got a LT sell only about 10-15% down from the top. You don't get LT bearish confirmation at the tops.

LT sell





As i posted here on Jan 16 08, my system went to a long term sell after breaking the Aug 07 lows. Some recent history on this LT system.

Nov 2000 - SPX 1365 - LT sell. SPX declined to 768 subsequently.
June 2003 - SPX 988 - LT buy. SPX ran up to 1576 after this LT buy. About 60% run-up.
Jan 16, 08 - SPX 1370 - LT sell.

Now since the last LT buy back in 2003, SPX has had one heck of a bull run of about 60%. Now the LT sell has been generated at about 12% from the top. So giving up 12% of the profits from a 60% run-up is not a bad deal, if one views it from a LT perspective. The LT sell during 2000 was also generated from about 11% from the top.

If one were a ST trader, my ST sell would have gotten one out of the market right near the top on Oct 11 - ST sell posted by me on TT.

http://www.traders-talk.com/mb2/index.php?showtopic=77295&hl=

If one were a IT term trader, my IT sell would have gotten one out of the market at 1480 on Nov 11 - IT sell posted on traders-talk

http://www.traders-talk.com/mb2/index.php?showtopic=78887&hl=

So bottomline, it depends on the timeframe one is trading and how much drawdown one is willing to take. LT signals is of no use to traders. It's mostly for LT investor types.

This LT signal is based on three factors. All three conditions need to be satisfied.

1) My bull-bear indicator moving above zero for LT buy or moving below zero for LT sell.
2) Lower lows on weekly for a LT sell and higher highs on weekly for a LT buy.
3) A potentially completed e-wave pattern.

Amazingly, all the three factors came into play right about at the same time. That's what makes TA fascinating !


E-wave details






I was working with an assumption that we were in a Primary degree wave B from March 03 bottom. Given that i now have a LT sell and a potentially completed wave pattern, i have to now radically alter my wavecount, in the light of newly presented information. Waves are dynamic structures, which evolve over time. Now there is no way, i can call this structure a A-B-C pattern from the Oct 02 lows, without violating all the channel rules and e-wave time rules and compromising on the structural integrity of the wave pattern. I am not going to do that to justify my bias or to stubbornly prove my original thesis. Instead, i am changing my wavecount, that the wave from oct 02 was a Primary degree wave 1 impulse, with a wave 5 extension. So we in a primary degree wave 2 bear trend at this stage, until proven otherwise. The implication is that the Oct 02 bottom was a cycle degree wave 4bottom, which should not be violated for decades to come.

The first thrust (Wave 1) from the Oct 02 bottom generated a MACD reading of -14.3. The subsequent thrust (wave 3) generated a MACD reading of 39.58, which has never been exceed throughout the course of the bull market, even after the huge impulse from mid-2006. That pretty much confirms that 2004 peak was indeed the wave 3. Wave 5 generated a peak MACD reading of 37.27, which diverged negatively with the wave 3 peak, characteristic of wave 5. Now we have a situation where wave 1 < wave 3 < wave 5 which says wave 5 extended.

Price Projections Now typically, impulses once completed, retrace back to wave 4 of a lesser degree, which in this case comes around SPX 1170. The measured move objective for a potential double top at Oct 07 also generates an objective of 1170. So the preliminary price objective for the Primary degree wave 2 should be around SPX 1170 +/- 20 points. Whether further downside projections will be generated, will be determined if and when we get there.

Time Projections

Since there is no clear defined time relationship between wave 1 and wave 2, it's hard to come up with a time projection for wave 2. If it's a violent decline, we could see all this over in about 6-8 months. If it's a slow bleed with deep retracements, it could run all the way into 2010. I am not going to hazard a guess on that.


Signal Status

At this point all my systems from VST to LT remain on a sell. Remember in the context of this LT sell, we will have some large and vicious bear market rallies. But rallies should not make any new bull market highs, but a series of lower tops.

Implications of a LT sell

Now that we are in a bear market as opposed to a IT bear trend, this should lead to softening economic conditions going forward, and possibly a recession. Also, as long as the LT buy was alive, one could sit on drawdowns and hope for the LT trend to bail them out of the drawdown situations. One could also average down on IT term declines. Now that the LT is on a sell, drawdowns can lead to further drawdowns and averaging down can be a potentially losing strategy. Also now all signals will have to be intrepreted in the context of a bear market.

And again the "End of America" and the collapse of the Roman empire arguments will start to take centrestage as the bear market unfolds. The argument about emergence of China and India as the next economic superpowers will start to gain strength. The deflationary collapse and "Great depression" arguments will be accepted and dreaded. Those who hung out on the longwaves.net during the 2002 bottom know pretty well how convincing they look and how wrong they turn out to be. If anything this wave 2 will generate fear levels worse than the bottom of Oct 02. Those fear levels should present an opportunity of lifetime for the wholesalers to pick up the bargains once again, as has always happened in the history. But for the retailers with not that deep pockets, it's prudent to remain patient and let the bear play out and wait for the next LT buy confirmation.

Good luck.

Wednesday, January 16, 2008

LT sell



I will post a detailed update during the weekend. For now, it's suffice to say the break of the Aug lows and my bull-bear market indicator crossing below zero has signalled a LT sell.

Sunday, January 13, 2008

Oh my... !

The decline from July 07 top concluded as 3 waves. The next upleg from Aug 07 to Oct 07 was another 3 wave structure. The subsequent decline from Oct 07 is also a 3 wave structure so far. So no impusive action so far from July 07, from either a bullish or bearish perspective. That's why i give the benefit of doubt to a high level consolidation here.

The most striking feature is the irregular top on Oct 11. Irregular tops are bullish e-wave structures and they resolve upwards after the correction is over. The only way a 3-legged wave can be called the ultimate bull market top is if one subscribes to the truncation theory. If one theorizes that Oct 11 ended in a failure, then we could say that it was a major bull market top. But the truncation theory ends up wrong more than 9 out of 10 times. So it's hard to go with the truncation theory. A failure or truncation means the bearish forces were so overwhelming that the market could not reach it's logical conclusion i.e could not complete it's wave pattern. Now if it were true, then the subsequent decline from Oct 07 top should have been more violent than the rally from Aug 07 bottom. This is not the case as seen from the angle of decline or the time taken to retrace the the rally from Aug bottom. So the truncation theory is pretty hollow!

Now here's the "Oh my...." part.




My momentum indicator which demarcates the bull-bear market stopped right near the zero line as of this week's close. Oh my...

That also coincided with a climactic reversal in the form of penentration of the weekly bollinger bands and a reversal out of it. The BB penetration and reversal have market all the IT bottoms since the bull market begun in 2003. Oh my...

The decline from July 07 top to Aug 07 bottom took 5 weeks. The rally from Aug 07 bottom to Oct 07 top took 9 weeks. That's a total of 14 weeks for A+B. The decline from Oct 07 to date has taken 14 weeks. A+B = C. Oh my....

Can you call the bull dead ? You be the judge ! I am just presenting the TA case for a incomplete bull market.

My ST to IT indicators remain on a sell signal. If we get a strong rally accompanied with strong volume and breadth, then we could generate an IT buy signal next week. If we crap out here yet again, then the bear market case will start strengthening again. The market is currently wearing out both the bulls and bears. The violent snapbacks have killed the stubborn bears. The spectacular rally failures have killed the stubborn bulls. If one thing everyone is sure of in this environment is failures - both rallies and declines. Strong trending moves come out of this kind of environment. Be prepared !

Saturday, January 05, 2008

IT sell signal

What a difference a day makes!. The inability of the market to recover after filling the ES 1436 gap and a lack of strong reversal EOD, caused some massive technical failure on weekly charts. Now we have serious momentum failure on the weekly charts. If we break the Nov 26 lows, we would also have to deal with a pattern failure (triangle pattern). The ball is now clearly in the bears court and i am bearish here. No reason whatsoever to be bullish.

So, now are we in a bear market ? Not yet. Not according to my indicators. Not until this indicator crosses below zero.



Don't get me wrong. I am bearish here, but an IT downtrend does not make it a bear market. Aug 04, April 05, Oct 05, June 06 have all had the same kind of momentum breakdown/configuration on the weekly charts. But they all resolved to the upside. The arguments then, were same as now. Internals breaking down, fundamentals (like credit mess, impending derivative implosion, consumer tapped out etc...). The fundmental arguments have no credibility left in so far as calling the bear market, cuz the market has rallied for 4 years in the face the same fundamentals or the fundamental expectations. Now during all those IT bottoms, it was the same sentiment on the message boards and among the market advisors. That any recovery back to the bull side was improbable and the bear market was inevitable. Clearly it was a wrong assumption in all the 4 instances. My indicator and my methodology has kept me on the right side so far and it also takes away any emotional reponse to market action and popular herding behaviour out of the equation.

What will create a bear market here ? IMO, three things need to happen here. The massive larger degree consolidation pattern or the topping pattern, as the case maybe, is yet to be resolved. A break of Aug 07 lows will resolve it to the bear side. A break of Aug lows would mean that we finally have bottoms below bottoms on the weekly chart. That's an unequivocal bear trend. That would also put to rest any bullish e-wave pattern arguments. That would also pull my LT indicator into the bear territory. Right now the jury is still out, but time to be very cautious on long side as the market has a serious chance of a collapse....